December 14, 2017

Why and how Puruṣa can experience but not Prakṛti?

Chapter 2 Antinomies of Pure Sexuation
pp. 51-86
The properly philosophical outcome of chapter 1 is that everything turns around the passage from Kant to Hegel. In the predominant perception, Kant is supposed to openly admit the failure of general ontology which aims at grasping the Whole of reality: when our mind tries to do this, it inevitably gets involved in antinomies; Hegel then closes this gap, reinterpreting antinomies as contradictions whose dialectical movement enables us to grasp the Whole of reality, i.e., the return to precritical general ontology.... But what if the actual situation is quite different? True, Kant admits antinomies, but...

Chapter 3 Toward a Unified Theory of Four Discourses and Sexual Difference
pp. 87-110
One of the crucial differences between psychoanalysis and philosophy concerns the status of sexual difference: for philosophy, the subject is not inherently sexualized, sexualization occurs only at the contingent, empirical level; whereas psychoanalysis promulgates sexuation into a kind of formal, a priori condition of the very emergence of the subject. (It is homologous with the notion of desire: in Kant’s philosophy, the faculty of desire is “pathological,” dependent on contingent objects, so there can be no “pure faculty of desiring,” no “critique of pure desire,” while for Lacan, psychoanalysis precisely is a kind of “critique of pure desire.” In other words, desire does have a non-pathological...


From what I understand, he doesn't even think he has done any real or original philosophy at this point and hates most of his own work.
Feel Philosophy: [So there could be a little bit of mental aspect (most likely hidden to us) in the fundamental particles.] https://t.co/iMsth7DxYs

Development is dependent on science and a slight wrong direction can lead to disaster. So diligence is crucial. Evolution is not linear and hence predicting its course is hazardous. Vedic ontology unveiled by Sri Aurobindo seeks to harmonise the two but beware of wishful thinking

Sri Aurobindo himself admitted that events didn't take place the way he would have liked which means the Evolutionary purpose is shrouded in mystery. Instead of suffering from victimhood, it's advantageous to take lessons from myriad cultural invasions India has harboured so far.
https://twitter.com/SavitriEraParty/status/941282535174127617

Reimagining and Refashioning Integral Management - Tusar Nath Mohapatra, Savitri Era Learning Forum (SELF) Ghaziabad https://t.co/YGoEhdLyp7

[PDF] Sri Aurobindo's Views on Heraclitus' Philosophy: A Synthesis

K Kunkolienker - waset.org
60 days ago - Abstract—This paper appreciates the stimulating and thought-provoking synthesis of Heraclitus' philosophy offered by Sri Aurobindo. The deep philosophical insights of Heraclitus expressed in aphoristic and cryptic form inspired him and supported

Comparative Literature in India in the Twenty-first Century

AK Singh - The English Paradigm in India, 2017 - Springer
86 days ago -  … The paper looks at the writers from Indian subcontinent such as Gurudev Tagore, Sri Aurobindo and many poets and authors such as Umashankar Joshi in Gujarati, Shamsher Bahadur Singh in Hindi and Faiz Ahmed 'Faiz' in Urdu who provide the models for such a …

The “The Life Divine''as it Begins: An essential understanding of the first chapter of Life Divine–“The Human Aspiration”

A Vaidya - philarchive.org
155 days ago - Here in in this chapter Sri Aurobindo one of the most modern prolific philosophers of Renaissance India has … Keywords Sri Aurobindo HUman Aspiration Life Divine. Categories Metaphilosophy. (categorize this paper). PhilPapers/Archive ID VAITTL. Revision history …

[PDF] Aurobindonian Rhetoric and the Problem of Evaluation

D Goswami - the-criterion.com
223 days ago -  … Article History: Submitted-06/04/2017, Revised-25/04/2017, Accepted-26/04/2017, Published-30/04/2017. Abstract: During the post-independence era, Indian poets writing in English showed serious issues with Sri Aurobindo's spiritual poetry; particularly its language …

[PDF] THE EVOLUTION OF CONSCIOUSNESS AND INDIVIDUATION: GEBSER, SRI AUROBINDO AND JUNG

D Johnston - davidbear.ca
247 days ago - ABSTRACT In this essay I trace the evolution of consciousness from the time of origins and the archaic structure of consciousness, through the magic structure, the mythical structure and the mental structure up to the present incipient integral culture of

[PDF] JUNG'S GNOSTIC CREATION MYTH: THE CREATIVE SHADOW PLEROMA, AND SRI AUROBINDO AND THE MOTHER

D Johnston - davidbear.ca
251 days ago - This essay is about Jung's Gnostic creation myth, which he wrote in 1916 as an important part of his encounter with the unconscious. He called it the Seven Sermons to the Dead, and attributed its writing to Philemon, a winged being he encountered in dreams

[DOC] The Spiritual Nationalism & Human Unity: approach taken by Sri Aurobindo in Politics

D Banerjee - academia.edu
260 days ago - Abstract: Sri Aurobindo's theory of Politics is quite extraordinary than other contemporary politicians of India. It also has several parts like Swaraj, boycott, resistance, national education as necessary ingredient of Indian political agitation started from 1905.

[PDF] Sri Aurobindo's Approach to Tantra

P Nandakumar - esamskriti.com
270 days ago - Hatha yoga and raja yoga apart, Sri Aurobindo gives a very detailed treatment of jnana, karma and bhakti yoga in his book. While each pathway can be taken to achieve realisation when pursued with single-minded sincerity, Sri Aurobindo wonders whether

Reception Configurations: The Case of European Epic in India

BD Schildgen - Reading the Past Across Space and Time, 2016 - Springer
285 days ago -  … Aurobindo Ghose. Aurobindo Ghose is considered among the greatest Indian philosophers of the twentieth century … Aurobindo and Savitri. Savitri—the name means Light—is a character from the Mahabharata . Like some characters in the Commedia , she is …

[BOOK] The Integral Philosophy of Aurobindo: Hermeneutics and the Study of Religion

B Prince - 2017 - books.google.com
326 days ago - Sri Aurobindo was an Indian nationalist, philosopher, yogi, guru, and poet. This book is an enquiry into the integral philosophy of Aurobindo and its contemporary relevance. It offers a reading of Aurobindo's key texts by bringing them into conversation with

BOOK] Literary and Cultural Readings of Goddess Spirituality: The Red Shadow of the Mother

A Mukhopadhyay - 2016 - books.google.com
364 days ago -  … 33 The Confluence of Mothers in Sri Aurobindo's Savitri: Exploring the Divergence between Aufhebung and “Integration” from the Perspective of Goddess Spirituality Chapter Five …

I added a video to a @YouTube playlist https://t.co/VHp2QYafXx Talk by Prof Deepti Malhotra || Sri Aurobindo Ashram - Delhi Branch
https://twitter.com/saadelhi/status/941249033561047041
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Vimal: As per Wikipedia (as of 13 Dec. 2017 with minor modification), “The Universe is all of space and time (spacetime) and its contents,[12] which includes planets, moons, stars, galaxies, the contents of intergalactic space and all matter and energy.[13][14] While the size of the entire Universe is still unknown,[6] it is possible to measure the observable universe. Halpern and Tomasello calculated the observable universe using data from European Space Agency's Planck satellite, estimating it to be 90.68 billion light-years across, 0.7% smaller than previously thought.[15]  […] The Universe can be defined as everything that exists, everything that has existed, and everything that will exist.[22][23][24] According to our current understanding, the Universe consists of spacetime, forms of energy (including electromagnetic radiation and matter), and the physical lawsthat relate them. The Universe encompasses all of life, all of history, and some philosophers and scientists suggest that it even encompasses ideas such as mathematics and logic.[25][26][27]”

The eDAM’s definition of universe is the same as science defines plus subtle and subtlest UF levels. The UF is within our universe, there is nothing beyond it.   

Vimal: … In addition, in the eDAM, ‘Consciousness’ is the Universal Potential Consciousness (UPC) that is the 1pp-mental aspect of the unmanifested state of the information in the Unified field (UF) and its inseparable physical aspect is Physical Unified Field (PUF).

Vimal: The aspects of the unmanifested state of information in the UF are latent, so God (manifested consciousness) is not necessary. It is the manifestation processes such as condensation process and the relevant laws are necessary, which are inherently embedded in UF by definition.  It should be noted that the eDAM follows scientific bottom-up approach and UF is proposed in the same sense. Materialists, such as Poznanski, reject idealism based top-down approach on the name of Voodoo-ism. Therefore, to avoid such type critique, the proposal of self-referral and self-awareness attributes of the UF still need further justifications and why they would be mandatory.

Vimal: What is the structure inside the Puruṣa of Sāṅkhya and why and how He can experience (but not Prakṛti) and what is the precise mechanism? Are they not assumptions? In the eDAM, the ontology of UF, UPC, and PUF is the ontology of information in the UPC and PUF of UF. Information is the same in both UPC and PUF. What is information inside UF? I guess, all enormous processes and all possible laws. This information must be the same for both UPC and PUF; it is just looking from which perspective we like to view it; for the 1pp we can assume what we might experience. Since we are not UPC so there is no way to understand what the experiences UPC really might have. However, we can imagine by extrapolating. However, do not forget that UPC is related to the unmanifested state, so both UPC and PUF are latent for us. The source of information is UF, which is the same for both UPC and PUF.

Vimal: The initial source of all information is UF. You do not seem to understand the meanings of the “latent”, “information in both aspects” “perspective of viewing” and so on because you raise illogical queries. The definition of universe is given above, which is levels 1-3 (gross, subtle, and subtlest). There is nothing outside of the eDAM’s Universe. Since you and your core are from Sāṅkhya, you see physical and mental aspects separable and you think they have different ontology. No, in the eDAM, the ontology of both aspects is the same as the ontology of related information.

Vimal: Yes, it is mandatory to provide scientific two-way designed experiments (both positive and negative should be necessary, esp. if you want NIH grant) in theoretical modeling to have any value. If negative results are obtained, then the framework will be rejected. The positive results need further testing. Science can only reject hypotheses, it cannot prove them. We both are theorists and we must provide such designed experiment; you may like to look at Section 3.2 of (Vimal, 2015b) and let me know if you suggest how to improve it with some justifications. Vinod ji claims that it only shows correlation, not inseparability but does not provide any justification and how to improve it. I think that it provides 1-1 correlation which is close to inseparability but I am looking for a design that can clearly show the inseparability and reject the separability of Vinod’s framework (non-interactive dualism, SAnkhya). Once aspects are separable, then mind can exist without brain, such as ghosts; hope you never encountered ghosts in your life, but many people claim they have; watch “fear files” 1 or 2 episodes, just to have a feeling; they are available in YouTube or Google.
Cheers!

Kind regards,
Rām
Rām Lakhan Pāndey Vimal, Ph.D.
Amarāvati-Hīrāmaṇi Professor (Research), Vision Research Institute, Physics, Neuroscience, & Consciousness Research Dept.
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2 comments:

  1. Sri Aurobindo talks about the 3 fold labour underlying Integral Yoga:
    Aspiration, Rejection and Surrender.

    I have a confusion regarding nature of “aspiration”.
    How does one aspire while meditating by witness-method ?
    Or is the effort of triple dissociation from mind, vital and body itself an aspiration ?
    Rejection and surrender are implicit in this method I guess.

    It’s just one silly intellectual quandry that has seized my mind these days and interfering with my practice.

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  2. Integral Yoga is not confined to meditation and covers all life. The following advice of the mother depicts graphically the stipulation of Aspiration:

    [To sum up, never forget the purpose and goal of your life. The will for the great discovery should be always there above you, above what you do and what you are, like a huge bird of light dominating all the movements of your being.] -The Mother

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