The shared accent patterns between Greek and Vedic indicate that these patterns are older than both, and certainly not anything newly introduced after Pāṇini. Within Indian linguistic history of accents. The three accent system of the older Vedic texts was weakened to two accent system of the Śatapatha-Brāhmaṇa, and eventually lost in later Sanskrit pronunciation. However, the Vedic recitation traditions preserved the older accent patterns, albeit in slightly variant forms across different regions. The history of writing systems is an entirely different subject. The writing systems developed out of the Brahmi script first used in Ashokan inscriptions. It took several hundred years for Devanagari to develop out of Brahmi in certain regions of India. As one notices from the Shiksha texts, the Veda reciters were opposed to writing down the orally preserved Vedic texts, [reading from a written text was called a Pāṭhaka-Adhama, the worst reciter] and hence the written forms of the Vedic texts developed very late. Pāṇini himself predates the emergence of writing systems reflected in Brahmi and was dealing only with oral form of Sanskrit.
Madhav M. Deshpande
Professor Emeritus
Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan
[Residence: Campbell, California]
Vladimir Yatsenko wrote:
Dear Deshpande,
thank you for your thoughts. I have the same thoughts and understand what you mean. To come close to this mantric poetry of the Rishi, we have to recover three things: meaning (Sri Aurobindo's interpretation), poetic rhythms of chandas (meter) and the accent in the words (Udatta). Moreover the meaning of the verses depends on the accent in the words. Anudatta and Svarita are playing only indicative role, pointing to Udatta, the proper accent.
For example, in the Vocative case the word is always accented on the first syllable, when it stands at the beginning of stanza, and unaccented when in the middle or at the end.
The same with verbs (except in relative sentences). The unique accent in the words is maintained throughout the Rigveda, it means we are dealing with authentic text, the way how Vedic Rishis were reading it. The accent is much older than Panini or Brahmanic literature. It was already lost in the Aitareya Brahmana and other texts. Accent is a unique opportunity for us to hear the diction of the Vedic Rishis.
Udatta is only marked by anudatta and svarita, but it has to be pronounced much higher (5 tones higher in accordance with research in Indo-European languages). If we read it with proper accent we get an idea how beautiful the poetry was. It is very different from what we are used to. I will send you some recordings to hear the difference.
Shubham astu,
Vladimir
238. There is a long line of those, from Raja Rammohan Roy (1774-1833) to the first prime minister of divided India, Jawaharlal Nehru (1889-1964).
239. They all accepted with enthusiasm the premises of scientific rationality on which modern India was to build its national life.
243. So they drove a dichotomy into our dharma of totally denying this world which is deliberately and absolutely false.
244. There is an equally long line who opposed them from Swami Dayananda (1824-83) to Bal Gangadhar Tilak (1856-1920) and Aurobindo (1872-1950).
https://twitter.com/Janamejayan/status/1099703778725511169?s=19
Vivekananda was a product of his time. He was very much influenced by Christian missionaries and that shows in his writings. He deserves our respect but some of his writings should be taken with a pinch of salt. Sri Aurobindo had better clarity in his thoughts.
https://twitter.com/TrueIndology/status/1099651107805192193?s=19
They want bloodbath in this land of peace. It’s my conviction that this time they will be defeated. Because the time of an Indic renaissance, as visualised by Sri Aurobindo, and many great thinkers, has come. This is not about political parties. This is about us.
https://twitter.com/vivekagnihotri/status/1099561239510806530?s=19
Implying that Sri Aurobindo had similar views as Savarkar is not based on facts. Sri Aurobindo differs in great many respects even from his close associates like Lal-Bal-Pal. Hope, you bring out these crucial points when necessary. Thanks. #FiveDreams #WorldUnion @SavitriEraParty
https://twitter.com/NathTusar/status/1097895581895311361?s=19
Gandhi’s covenant seeks to bring about the elimination of the sin of secrecy by demanding of men that they lead their inner lives and outer lives as if under the watch of a judge of morals.
Shaj Mohan and Divya Dwivedi: https://t.co/ChtpCvce7E
"A people without the knowledge of their past history, origin and culture is like a tree without roots.”
India Post has a glorious opportunity to take forward India’s legacy of being the spiritual guru of the world.
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Not sure, if it's in his personal or official capacity, but typecasting fellow citizens and behaving so patronizingly is utterly indecent and immoral on the part of the Prime Minister of a Democracy. The ritual is nothing but insulting their dignity and violation of human rights.
https://twitter.com/SavitriEraParty/status/1099718794459533312?s=19
Violates the very principle of equality and honouring basically amplifies the lack and vulnerability of the employees/citizens. This is simply abominable in a modern society. But, depends upon one's value system if one doesn't feel abhorrence for this ritual or rather praises it.
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All six sub-schools of Vedanta have proposed Brahman that transcends both Purusha and Prakriti because of the above problems of Sankhya. Moksha and re-birth and karma concepts are still kept in the monistic Vedanta. Brahman is revealed in Nirvikalpa Samadhi (highest state of Samadhi), where the subject-objects (Purusha-Prakriti) division proposed in Sankhya disappears. This division is valid in mundane conscious level and in lower levels of Samadhi (Savikalpa Samadhi). These are considered subjective pieces of evidence for both Vedanta and Sankhya. However, the top-down approach still have the problem of the explanatory gap: what is the underlying mechanism of manifestation of the universe including us? The Sankalpa mechanism does not work in mundane conscious level and there is no scientific reproducible evidence with r>0.5 and p<0 .5.="" address="" approach="" as="" being="" bottom-up="" comes="" developed="" edam.="" in="" is="" p="" problem="" science-based="" the="" this="" to="" where="">
If purity is not the reason then why two different primal entities and why Purusha is made non-interactive? My reading entails that purity is the main reason for Purusha to make it non-interactive. Yes, we need to get Ph.D. (meaning attaining Samadhi) to understand, no doubt about it; so we should try our best thru daily practice at least if we cannot join to any sadguru because of our family responsibilities. The 13 problems of Sankhya are not my discovery, it has been there over 100s of years; you try convincing them, not me. Your carpeting attitude is not going to help much; by the way, did you see any ghost (prediction of dualism) in your life; perhaps watch “fear files” so investigate how true they are; if you are lucky you might encounter some ghosts and then you can address the ghost problem of Sankhya. For me, non-interaction and dualism are major problems and I am not satisfied with answers. Just re-address in more convincing ways; get help from some sadgurus. SYP’s SEs are all closed-eyes meditation related cortical phosphenes and are not reproducible with r>0.5 and p<0 .05="" all="" benchmark="" but="" came="" do="" everything="" fine="" for="" from="" good="" has="" in="" is="" it="" mindset="" my="" nbsp="" not="" nothing="" of="" p="" reproducibility="" requirement="" science.="" science="" scientists.="" the="" this="" to="" true="" with="" would="" you="">
Cheers!
Kind regards,
Rām
Rām Lakhan Pāndey Vimal, Ph.D.
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