June 25, 2025

Rivers, economics, and cosmology

 Collated by Tusar Nath Mohapatra

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"Well, when people think about darkness at night they take it as obvious that it’s because the sun isn’t shining on that side of the earth."

https://x.com/five_books/status/1937571598275387821?t=TJuh3Q3WozRcz-6WQxD8lA&s=19

"A lot of people think, well I am never going to get any better at that, and they give up. But why? The evidence often is that they have only tried it for a few hours."

https://x.com/five_books/status/1937526362333417895?t=nzZP5WZ4IMiGgBEmGUjYnw&s=19

"Problems were never talked about...Nobody talked about sex or the menopause. You just didn’t speak about things."

https://x.com/five_books/status/1937465903215472794?t=WTbSrT9t6vCIT-b49cCl1g&s=19

“The economics that we’ve inherited—largely 20th century thinking rooted in 19th century theory—in no way equips us to understand 21st century challenges”

https://x.com/five_books/status/1937254512550408204?t=CBac44eGAXZgBG26koPuKw&s=19

Rivers and the state of them are hugely important. All civilisations depend on rivers, almost without exception. All the great cities of the world were founded on the banks of a river, from London on the Thames to Paris on the Seine, just to mention European examples. Then in Asia, you’ve got Delhi on the Yamuna, which is a tributary of the Ganges. Rivers everywhere are a source of civilisation. The reason for that is that they’re a source of life. In both pre-industrial and industrial societies they are vitally important for water, for agriculture, trade and eventually for industry. So you have a long history and prehistory of rivers’ importance to our lives.

The Ganges is, I would argue, the world’s most important river. Not because it’s the longest, which it is not by any means, but because more people depend on it and have through the ages – hundreds of millions at the moment – than on any other. It’s a densely populated part of Asia.

"Because the Ganges is holy and a purifying force for life and for death – purifying you after death and ensuring that you undergo transcendence ­– there’s a tendency to dismiss physical pollution as unimportant."

https://x.com/five_books/status/1937103579514278118?t=09DUMnfAl2nFuFJyRoycJw&s=19

Imagine water otherwise – @RobGMacfarlane (one of the deepest, most generous thinkers and most incandescent writers of our time) on the personhood of rivers and what makes something alive

https://x.com/themarginalian/status/1928798150023676315?t=Vf69QTIoT8lQjuyB4kzgLQ&s=19

Interesting to see that literally no part of India carries even a bit of it “ye-old” heritage and “golden era” that it has ridiculously touted in front of the entire world. Not a shred of evidence exists of that “glorious past”. Makes me think if it was fabricated or what.

https://x.com/saul_whitman/status/1937660729215320478?t=8KAiHJ0lI9w9iA3SaBfmSg&s=19

There is absolutely no evidence that India ever had a glorious past. Before the arrival of outsiders, India was so illiterate that it had no written history. The British assembled one based on archeological work, works for foreign visitors, etc.

https://x.com/JayantBhandari5/status/1937661835588829555?t=JVyztpkONv5-YsLXtEI5eA&s=19

And should be noted, many British romanticised what they found.

Reality on ground way cruder than portrayed.

https://x.com/Robjbe/status/1937675813349970321?t=XSZeQYLojv-u7L-zdNJStw&s=19

The British elite were already quite leftist by the 1900s. At the same time the more enlightened among them wanted to instill confidence among the pagan natives, so erroneously they tried to cherry-pick and highlight whatever had some resemblance to western values.

https://x.com/JayantBhandari5/status/1937683400204448028?t=oLEzujfkyO2dWZ0J8GdtNg&s=19

Many of the West’s most intellectual and enlightened thinkers genuinely believed that India mastered the soul/unknown subconscious, while the west mastered material reality. 

Jung talks about how learning from Indian civilization could improve on the West’s lack of understanding of the “non material”/subconscious.

Enlightenment as a movement was neither related to Indian aboriginal thinking and any development is a perverted copycat of Platonism received with the reach of Alexander the great to those lands.

You are misappropriating culture and falsely attributing to an alleged heritage.

Hold on - don’t put words in my mouth, I am not kanging/misappropriating anything. 

I found it interesting that Jung perceived Indian Philosophy as being the antidote to the neurosis of many westerners at the time - he believed Indians to master soul. Have you read Man In Search of Soul?

There is no indian Philosophy. All they have is a contradictory system of belief filled with aboriginal myth,fantasy and folklore.

Yes, I have studied Jung, Freud et al.

Sit for a while with a critical mind and study the pinnacle of Indian yoga, Sri Aurobindo.

If you stomach don’t start turning at the ridiculous set of inconsistency after reading few minutes, you might instead end up in laughter at the attempt to pass for Philosophy Indian tales

https://x.com/PiratePareto/status/1937684285974097998?t=WK12x1LhBbkKPrWESLHBfw&s=19

realistically there are only 2 options. either you were created by a divine mystery of infinite power. or yr the result of the superintelligent process of a zillion years of evolution. so. we are ideally fitted to our circumstances. we have all we need. wagmi wagmi wagmi, amen

https://x.com/RichDecibels/status/1937477806184694008?t=K1LxDxwkW9x28K9wyOuiFg&s=19

Why not both ? That has been the position of the integral (integrative) tradition, for example , Aurobindo, i.e. the One expands itself to the world of material evolution (descent), which strives to come back to unity consciousness (ascent). Both can be true and interesting to pursue.

https://x.com/mbauwens/status/1937501901911916566?t=owZoAVwrX_IOith7fqXEFQ&s=19

Planning a retreat to Auroville?

Once a symbol of tranquility, the township now mirrors the bustling transformation of any Indian city.

It now finds itself entangled in conflict and unrest.

Read @PoojaPrasanna4 and @priyankathiru's deep dive report.

https://x.com/newslaundry/status/1937548774295110103?t=hvnfx6TgvUIKaSrQlg2Z1A&s=19

Us Hindoos work hard, do good karmas all our lives to get heaven after we die, while some Europeans are born in the heaven.

They eat all animals also, don’t respect their elders also, don’t pray to anyone also, don’t believe in karma, astrology, numerology.

https://x.com/WhateverVishal/status/1937133570289725812?t=ubfWtzBk1tC46AhaOLUUvg&s=19

Why r u going to Pondy when u've Mahe in KL? Usual story the French gave urban planning, institutions Indians considered it blasphemous & agglomerated themselves like bees, political instability kicked in later. Still it is good as an economic outpost cheap liquor, cars, excise duty, GST.

Still resorts are there but, not close to a holiday breeze a NIT Calicut or Surathkal student would get. Yes, my reply on why PY lost its charm amounts to insane regulations, political instability, loss of charm due to poverty, poor ECR connectivity that didn't expand despite traffic.

Yes, it was also India's mistake to have not made Goa, PY, Andamans, Lakshadweep like Hong Kong and Macau. 1 nation two systems with strict high skilled immigration like China. By now! There you go you've got casinos like Macau, parties like Brazil in India with Singaporean charm.

https://x.com/renukablr/status/1937186396839768186?t=fPeFuM-gVqgBQhS4RDrPsg&s=19

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